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Dougie's Friday Mail Bag (Pacquiao-Thurman, Hard and Light Heavy Wagons, Naoya Inoue)

Dougie's Friday mailbag (Pacquiao-Broner, Jack-Browne, Canelo-Jacobs, Crawford-Khan)

Manny Pacquiao and Keith Thurman stare at each other at the junction of July 20 once they had their 20 islands of July.


Hey Dougie,

Hope every thing is ok and you’ve gotten the prospect to hit again on the holiday weekend! Nothing is super compulsive this weekend, so simply a few questions concerning the upcoming Pac / Thurman PPV, which just acquired official.

Does it seem that Keith Thurman might have one foot out of the door? He dropped some unusual quotes throughout this week's press tour. He instantly deserted the opportunity to battle once more in 2019 and he talks about how he needs to be within the near future. He's an clever guy, so I'm not stunned that he has his next transfer, however it simply seems like a nasty PR saying he's lively. I hope that we’ll see a pointy version of Manny and we expect he is absolutely capable of making a choice towards a part-time grasp. Who do you help and what’s your confidence degree? Does it really feel 50-50, 60-40 or how do you see it enjoying?

Nice news for Robeisy Ramirez! Do you assume that Prime Rank, on the idea of age and pedigree, is making an attempt to speed him up as a lot as potential from the gate? She is athletic like hell and was fun to observe through the Olympics. Dare we might actually end up with a TV-friendly Cuban fighter?!?

Random Battle: Who would you choose if Regis & Mikey Garcia fought next? – DJ

I feel it is a "pick – em-fight", but I help Garcia a bit as a result of she has the expertise (and a barely extra correct method, though the natural preventing fashion of Progris would serve her nicely). I feel it will be an entertaining wrestle that’s controversial from start to finish and in all probability bloody and cruel.

As far as Ramirez is worried, I’ve little question that Prime Rankin will all the time clear up him up to the title of the world. They know that he has such an enormous elite-amateur expertise (which incorporates winnings for the two current pro-stands – Tugstsogt Nyambayar and Shakur Stevenson within the 2012 and 2016 Olympics), which should help the speedy improvement stage within the pro ranks. After only 11 professional bouts, Nyambayar and Stevenson are already Ring-listed feathers (No. eight and 10). Ramirez can in all probability reach the competitor's place within the first yr of professional. As a result of his liquid, sporty southern type, he’s more likely to acquire a good quantity of commercial leap as he presents with ESPN. (Nevertheless, he does the job that needs to be executed, however he isn’t the cleanest technician, and I do not like the fact that he is typically coated when he is close to his opponents, however he has a bow, an excellent physique assault and an excellent foot work. He has a great pro-trainer and He needs to study, he polishes shortly.)

My guess is that when Prime Rank helps Stevenson information the world title, they’ve Ramirez ready to challenge the former novice competitor.

I hope the whole lot is ok and you’ve gotten the prospect to hit again on the holiday weekend! I hope, however we’ll end up frantically in the Ring Journal in August. Nevertheless, I attempt to attempt to see Avengers: Endgame. (Who am I determine fucking 11-year-old daughter Detective Pikachu?.)

There’s not very compelling this weekend, so solely a couple of questions on the longer term Pac / Thurman PPV from which got here just as official. You're not hyped with Masayuki Ito-Jamel Herring's WBO's 130-kg identify service on ESPN? I’m!

Does it appear that Keith Thurman might have one foot out of the door? So, it felt just like the final yr and a half in the course of the yr. However now that he is going to battle with the upcoming first hearing corridor, I can take him a bit extra critically than when he was on vacation in Asia.

He dropped some strange quotes during this week's press tour. He does it when he isn’t in the press spherical. Keith is just a bit weird – in or out of the report. We just need to get into it. Personally, I like it for him.

Keith and Shawn

He immediately rejected the chance to struggle once more in 2019 and he talks about how he needs to get in the close to future. Thurman and Gary Russell Jr. are crucial examples of how a gifted participant Al Haymon / PBC has both a blessing and a curse. Particularly, Keith is a poster image of the failed PBC's time and bid supply, which was tried a couple of years in the past by NBC, CBS, ESPN and Spike. He introduced PBC's first primeime NBC exhibition in March 2015 (towards Robert Guerrero), and then replied to Luis Collazo at his opening in ESPN and then took each Shawn Porter and Danny Garcia. Hundreds of thousands of viewers followed him to struggle and to combine the 2 main emphasis this yr in the course of the six months, and still in his progress in sports activities – regardless that his january return Josesito Lopez towards FOX for – is nearly non-existent, which is puzzling, given his talent and achievements . But I can't blame all of it on PBC. Thurman's type has turn out to be less pleasant in recent times, and he sounded extra like a pacesetter than a fighter in a lot of the interviews he made throughout sport.

She is an intelligent guy so I'm not stunned that she has her subsequent movement mapped, however it solely feels dangerous PR saying that stuff when she's lively. I don't assume a modern fighter (not simply Keith) has a PR concept, however it’s good that they consider life after boxing when they’re still in a sporty prime (I simply need them to do extra on their prime)

I hope that we see a pointy version of Manny and we expect he’s absolutely capable of making a choice for a part-time master. You aren’t alone in this statement.

Who is in favor and what’s your confidence degree? I'm driving with Thurman here. I'm not very assured about it. Pacquiao is 40 years previous, but he's a B-Hop-level older badass. Thurman ought to be athletic, but he has been so inactive that his improvement has critically stopped (and he has by no means been a perfect fighter). Pacquiao has loads of technical / defensive shortcomings. I know PacMonster 10 years in the past would have used hell for Thurman's shortcomings, however I'm unsure that Manny's latest Senator model can do it.

Does it really feel 50-50, 60-40, or how do you see it enjoying? So, it's in all probability 55-45 young men. I see Thurman profitable an in depth, in all probability controversial determination.


Hi Doug-

If Manny Pacquiao wins Keith Thurman on July 20, does he have a authentic declare to the world's highest weight? It might be the highest quality to win in the division as a result of Shawn Porter gained Danny Garcia last fall.

Although we are in this area, what are your favourite hobbies in boxing history? Thanks. – Matt

No. 1 have to be the late career of Erik Morales in junior light-junior metal weight courses, which included two wins of 130kg (over arduous guys Jesus Chavez and Famoso Hernandez). competitor Marco Antonio Barrera, shocked by Manny Pacquiao, courageous place towards Marcos Maidan and Pablo Cesar Canon 11th Stops giving fourth title in fourth weight category. I used to be all the time a Barrera fan, so naturally I hated El Horrible throughout his prime years, but that salty Tijuana bull gained me towards the Barrera rubber model, Pacquiao trilogy and Chino. I had played for all these battles, and I had the consideration of being there. Morales left most of us with great reminiscences.

In fact, Bernard Hopkin's record-breaking lightweight heavyweight – featuring three titles and victories for Antonio Tarver, Winky Wright, Kelly Pavlik, Jean Pascal, then unbeaten (24-Zero) Tavoris Cloud, and Joe Calzaghe – was a particular testimony and cover .

If Manny Pacquiao wins Keith Thurman on July 20, does he have the suitable to say the very best rank on the earth? Hmmmm. Perhaps. He’s at present behind The Ring No. 5 behind the Errol Spence, Terence Crawford, Thurman and Shawn Porter. If he defeats our No. three (Keith), I think about there might be members of the Scores panel who claim he deserves to be No. 1.

  Manny Pacquiao. Photo Credit: Esther Lin / Showtime

And STILL… Philippine Individuals's… Manny Pacquiao! Photograph credit score: Esther Lin / Showtime

I feel the best way he wins Thurman (if he can do it) is an enormous factor. If both seem like s__t, I think somebody who is all the time jumping to the highest spot, but if he turns the clock back and flashes, PacMan's shape, type and lightning towards Thurman, properly… perhaps he has a real case 1. Spence's greatest wins are Mikey Garcia (who belongs to the sunshine), Clock Brook (who was damaged by the products and the possible weight was emptied) and Lamont Peterson (shop). Crawford has only three zones: Jeff Horn (who believed Pacquaio gained, together with myself), the priceless Jose Benavidez and Amir Khan (the much less stated the higher). Right now, Thurman, who has just lately been the most recent, had about 147 kilos, however his inefficiency has led him to decrease scores. If Pacquiao can add Keith's pony-tailed scalp to his current assortment, including Tim Bradley, Jessie Vargas, Lucas Matthysse, and Adrien Broner, he (and his fan legion) can certainly declare that his salary is excessive.

can be the highest quality winner in the division because Shawn Porter gained Danny Garcia final fall. Settle for 100%


I want to begin by saying that your content is actually unbiased (as a result of we all have unbiased info). I've been a day by day reader for a while (the first time) and I respect your opinion lots.

I needed to get an concept of ​​whether you assume Sergei Kovalev has a superb shot coming to the highest with 175 kilos. The place would you place him in historical past, then (if he mixed one or two belts) and proper now? I feel he was robbing the primary battle with Andre Ward. The best way he returned with Elieder Alvarez was also astonishing when everyone dropped him out. I'm an enormous fan Krusher and I also had doubts, who went to a rematch, and even more so on this deep division in.

I really feel his IQ and its jabin are greater than something that provides every belt employee hassle. His proper continues to be alive, however I don't assume he trusts it too much. I feel his band is just too problematic for Beterbiev, who I feel is his greatest shot in unification. I needed him over Gvozdyk until Stevenson's match, now I feel he might be an excessive amount of for Kovalev. Plainly Bivol is a greater, rounded mild weight for all 4 champions. Nevertheless, I feel that if Smith might have harm him, I feel Kovalev has a shot when he can put his photographs and field. However I also don't assume Bivol can be lazy as he did when Smith acquired hit.

Greatest want for you and your family! – Carlos L.A.

Thank you in your sort words, Carlos, and thanks for finally sending an e mail to your inbox.

I consider the present 175 kg belt straps are constant. Anyone of them can win one other good night time, I feel

Is this "old" fighter? Photograph / Stacey Verbeek

I agree that 36 years of age (and virtually ten years of wear and tear and tear in the body Kovalev rely extra on his jabiinsa, experience and fingers IQ. Hen as his energy ring to take a position Oleksandr Gvozdykin No. 1 light-weight in the heavy position ( followed by Kovalev and Bivol), however I feel Krusher is at present the perfect recreation play 175, so, in fact, if he can mix the titles in one different giant seat belts elements that he has established its place on the prime of the division, I feel that I also agree that Beterbiev is his greatest shot because his Russian (and former amateur-competitor) has a rough future fashion as Gvozdyk is an effective boxer and counter-attack within the medium and lengthy distance, while Bivol's youthful athleticism, footwork and sideways motion can show to be problematic for older veteran


Hello Doug

Last Saturday we had two sides

On one aspect of the Showtime event, where I obtained Mendez in at the least two rounds and then Gary Russell struggle with one other superior opponent

Time to move up, Gary, within the last struggle he spent more

I’m glad that I can get Showtime program along with DAZN software, because Showtime is a horrible match. Roberto Diaz is doing a better job for Golden Boy Promotions.

Good thing that I watched the WBSS beforehand because it was one other night time to recollect. I was ready for the monster to win the Knockout, however rattling he Vapors contest over 118. This man is something special, and if he does it Donaire, I am additionally absolutely febrile state.

Couldn't it have been attainable to see him struggle with Rungvisai if Srisaket rises up. Do you assume it's potential or would a monster be busy shifting around?

Baranchyk vs Taylor was one other cracker and prop prop on Baranchyk to offer Taylor some warmth when he had virtually acquired earlier, which was Taylor's masterpiece.

Notice. – Andy

I agree that Baranchyk-Taylor was a huge battle and the Scottish plaid grasp class of crude a robust and highly effective towards Russia. Taylor has to call for even higher performance to beat Progrias. (I’ve mentioned that the free junior's The Ring's precedence is granted World Boxing Super Collection 140-pound ultimate winner?) Bless WBSS.

Time to maneuver up, Gary, in the last battle, spent extra time watching the doorway than watching the actual battle. As I tweeted the night time of the battle (and the allure of a few unusual fans), if Russell's subsequent battle is just not a contest for integration with Leo Santa Cruz, there isn’t any cause that he will stay about 126 kilos.

I’m glad that I can get Showtime program together with DAZN software, because Showtime is a horrible match. Roberto Diaz is doing a better job in Golden Boy campaigns. Diaz does a very good job (particularly on GBP Thursday night time), but I feel Showtime was dangerous on the night time of Might 18th. The subscription cable community was wonderful in 2018, however they need to share their PBC talent with the FOX network now, and there’s extra strain to make PPV events on the prime degree.

Good thing that I watched the WBSS beforehand because it was one other night time to remember. I waited for Monster to win the knockout, but he was steaming during his competition 118. Then Inoue used his nickname, and he made it to the top bantamweights that had by no means been stopped pro

This guy is one thing particular and if he does it to Donaire, I am additionally absolutely febrile state. I officially have Inoue Fever's proper freak now!

I’m wondering if we might see him battle towards the Rungvisai battle if Srisaket rises up. Do you assume it's attainable or would the monster be too busy? I feel Inoue is 122 kilos when a Thai veteran is ready to be a part of the bantamweight division. If Sor Rungvisai disengages to struggle Inoua someday, I feel it's Takuma.


Hey Doug,

Wow, just wow. How spectacular is Naoya Inoue? This small 118 pounder might be probably the most thrilling boxer on the planet. He may also be one of the best. The best way he has sent his opponents and contemplating their expertise of high quality might be probably the most spectacular fighter as we speak. His speed-power mixture is incomparable and doesn't seem to be anyone who might match him. His first wrestle towards Rodriguez was very entertaining, and I might see a sophisticated battle for Monster. I even thought he confirmed cracks in his armor and a little bit of perseverance. However man, this second round of blitz, especially the second drop, where the body piercing was superb.

What do you assume? Am I flawed to assume he is one of the best? I really like Crawford, Spence and GGG, but this kid, man, just gained my boxing coronary heart. As much as I like Nonito, I don't assume he can survive over four to five rounds of this beast

Thank you Doug! – Juan Valverde, San Diego

King of Monsters?

I say a bit of prayer to Nonito earlier than he fought with Inoue, and I hope I’ll land in Los Angeles.

Are you flawed to assume that Inoue is the most effective preventing recreation right now? I wouldn't have denied you. She is certainly the most effective punch wheel (as The Ring announced her last yr to our statehood, which made Japanese boxing history by displaying her on the duvet), and she is certainly probably the most dynamic elite boxer. And no different fighter produces explosive pleasure besides Deontay Wilder (but Inoue does it for better resistance for my part).

She has a really robust job of 26-year-old professional with 18 races, but I don't assume her CV contributes to Loma or Canelo, and I don't assume she'd had a kingdom (but) that was as dominant as Crawford and Golovkin have been these days. But he's right there with nice fighters (including Oleksandr Usyk).

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