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Dougie Monday Mailbag (Junior Featherweight, Saudi Arabia, Canelon Saga)

Dougie's Friday mailbag (Pacquiao-Broner, Jack-Browne, Canelo-Jacobs, Crawford-Khan)

Daniel Roman caught up with Ryo Matsumoto on his method to a consensus in Tokyo. (Photograph by Naoki Fukuda)


Doug hey, hopefully every part goes right here in late summer time. Quick for you: Emanuel Navarrete, Danny Roman, Rey Vargas. Throwing TJ Doheny right into a wild card (he might have taken Roman one night time) … the last man standing? Or in the eliminator, Doheny fights Vargas and Navarrete fights Rome. Then the winners and losers stand out: Who do you’ve gotten? … Will we have the ability to see any of these actions in the subsequent six months? Cheers! – Alec

I consider there is a respectable probability to see Roman vs. Vargas over the subsequent six months if the £ 122 important house owners get previous their subsequent opponents, which isn’t straightforward.

Roman (27-2-1, 10 KOs), a single wholesaler of WBA / IBF and first-class junior lightweight within the Ring Journal collection, is scheduled to receive WBA # 2 at Murodjon Akhmadaliev on September 13. at Madison Sq. Garden. Akhmadaliev (6-0, 5 KOs) isn’t experienced among the many execs, but Uzbekistan's scratched southern pocket was an elite newbie who gained a bronze medal at the 2016 Olympics. The Diaz brothers (Joel and Antonio) have also educated him in the loopy scorching Indio / Coachella Desert in Southern California, so higher consider he’s going to be properly ready for his first title kick.

Vargas and WBC 122 pound belt. Photograph: Tom Hogan / Golden Boy Promotions

Vargas (32-0, 22 KOs), a WBC wholesaler and Ring Magazine's No. 2 junior light-weight, has to cope with his obligatory challenger, Guillermo Rigondeaux, by the subsequent date. an exhibition with the Cuban master has yet to be determined. The troublesome but grasping Mexican string retained its title towards Tomoki Kameda final month, so he will not be ready to return to the ring until October or November. Nevertheless, if Vargas uses confusing peak, long reach, and lateral motion to a very fading but nonetheless dangerous Rigo, he might think of surpassing and overturning an novice legend. And Roman might have too much professional experience for Akhmadaliev. I see him taking Uzbekistan into the deep waters and drowning him. If the feathers of the first and 2nd grade juniors of The Ring hold their belts, the reunion match (which includes the blank Ring title) could possibly be accomplished within the first quarter of 2020. Each Rome and Vargas are working collectively to advertise corporations that do enterprise with DAZN (Matchroom USA and Golden Boy), and each fighters have talked about attainable matches in current months.

Or within the eliminator, Doheny fights Vargas, and Navarrete fights Rome. Then the winners and losers stand out: Who do you’ve gotten? I’m going with Vargas in an in depth (maybe unpopular) unanimous choice in a frustrating battle with both Doheny and the fans and Roman once I come from behind in a late stoppage of a yr's battle for the candidate. And I journey the Child Faced Murderer from Inglewood, California to the Winner's Ultimate. I do know he would in all probability be the chances and media dangerous dog in that match, but I feel he can battle tall, fierce opponents and he would have gotten to Vargas sufficient to attain factors from the town of Mexico, perhaps by a majority or by sharing a nod. I’m going with Navarrete with a late stop (as a consequence of facial cuts / swelling) in a wild, bloody candidate of the yr battle in the losers last.

WHAT DO THE PEOPLE CARE? (19659003] Hello Dougie –

Best of loyalty to you and to everyone within the ring.

I actually take pleasure in your work on Thursday Night time Fights and The Ring report – they are enjoyable broadcasts.

With so much boxing these days,

In addition to dropping a fighter and having the promoter share the winnings, there are obvious penalties for an important penalties of holding (and dropping) such prevented promotions, is it that the winner fighter / promoter

Do you’ve got any ideas for a "grand solution" to the issue (if it truly is a problem and could be solved)?

Thanks for all the things. Get on Thursday television.

] The Battle City of San Diego … – Br ock

Thank you on your sort phrases, Brock. I feel you’ll take pleasure in this week's Thursday night time battles, featuring a boxer-vs.-slug match that includes undefeated young midfielders: Luis Feliciano (boxer, 12-Zero, eight KOs) and Genaro Gamez (the Slugger, 9 -Zero.6 KOs). It additionally features one among my most popular performers, Blair "The Flair" Cobb, who performs alongside the unbeaten Steve Villalobos (each 11-0-1 in the weightlifting sport). Whoooo!

There isn’t any area or path to the "contract effects of promotional struggles" and "money tracking". Cash is a query. The networks and streaming platforms (and the businesses behind them or the company giants behind them) solely want the preferred fighters who usher in probably the most cash (like Canelo Alvarez, Anthony Johsu and Gennady Golovkin) or well-known and extremely respected talent. or thrilling talents which will have stars, or probably superstars, if steered to the suitable (akin to Deontay Wilder, Errol Spence, Terence Crawford, and Vassiliy Lomachenko). These corporations pay the organizers and fighters a LOT of money for celebrity devoted followers to usher in bases, or the title of Heavyweight Champion or King of the Pound preventing on their network or platform.

You & # 39; you aren’t going to see Canelo, GGG or AJ preventing DAZN in the US. You're not going to see Wilder or Spence struggle at FOX or Showtime. (Although it must be famous that if Wilder hits Luis Ortiz again, he has agreed to face Tyson Fury again, which ESPN and FOX promote / produce collectively.)

And also you're not going to see Lomachenko. or Crawford will reject ESPN / ESPN + in the US anytime soon.

Different fighters who are in the Prime Rank, Golden Boy, Matchroom and PBC's in depth promotional tables are a special matter. If the money is sweet sufficient and there’s a vital prize in the line, you may even see certain guys cross the road. We have now

Jose Ramirez circled the dice, crossed the road, and now he’s a united head of 140 kilos. Photograph / Ed Mulholland-Matchroom Boxing USA

already seen a couple of occasions in the final nine months. Maurice Hooker, who battles DAZN, crossed the road to satisfy Alex Saucedon on ESPN last November. PBC player Andy Ruiz stepped in to satisfy Joshua at DAZN in June. And last on ESPN, Jose Ramirez crossed the road with DAZN when he joined Hooker. Will we see more of this in the coming months? I feel so, but not typically. Solely when a fighter who “crosses the street” gets a excessive payday or as soon as in a career opportunity (for example, Sergey Kovalev arrives by way of Anthony Yard this Saturday, he’ll line Canelo later this yr, and if the Russian loses, perhaps Jermall Charlo or Caleb Plant will towards the challenge.)

In addition to the clear penalties that the fighter loses within the match and the promoter has to share the winnings … what are the primary results of getting (and dropping) a cross – a significant battle to be prevented? The organizers do not need to spoil their community / platform companions. Media corporations understand and commit to a whole lot of tens of millions of dollars which were adjusted to multi-year contracts. They do not give away that sort of cash to see their promoting companion prime gamers get on the other aspect of the road within the vital battles that make up the listing of aggressive skills / upcoming program plan. If a promoter achieves the most effective boxing talent on the web or platform in matches that help create stars for competing nets / platforms, do you assume the network / platform that has been coping with profitable expertise needs to remain boxing or re-partnering as quickly as their commerce ends?


Howdy Doug,

Hope you and your nicely?

Anyway, I get straight to it. As I'm positive you already know, there are fairly a number of rumors that each one is just not well-GBP's inside, particularly Canelon and RyGuyn round. Apparently each fighters are extremely upset concerning the Oscar and his conduct, and both are apparently considering authorized action (Kevin Iole stated this on the SI pod with Chris Mannix and in a column). I just needed to get all of this into consideration as a result of it's a rumor that doesn't seem to go away and GB is unusually silent all through.

Second – Vergil Ortiz, I'm bought. All I see is her therapeutic. I like anything about him. His gap choice, potential to pay attention, physique to puncture, he's huge in weight, and so forth. And so forth. However principally he is just fan friendly. Arrives on the ring and brings it, plus he appears to be a high quality bloke outdoors the ring. Dedicated to his craft, and it goes with out saying that he just needs to field, practice, box, practice after which box extra. I know Tony O isn’t elite, however he is a world class / strong competitor and gave Ortiz a real battle, however it just exhibits that class Ortiz has to get Tony O out the primary time within the distance.

Third – The battle that has simply been announced in Gvozdyk vs Beterbiev. Who do you will have in that competition? I like Gvozdyk. Both are massive holes, but I feel like he has a slightly better jaw and it's not onerous to seek out Beterbiev with punches. Gvozdyk KO Spherical 6.

Lastly – AJ vs Ruiz Jr. 2. It's in Saudi Arabia. Many people (rightly) are at hand as a result of, among different things, Saudi Arabia's human rights document is lower than astronomical, however my query is: when Muhammad Ali and George Foreman went to Zaire, was there the same public uproar that has taken place for this battle? Yes, it is morally fallacious, however when has boxing ever put morality first? Is this all about Benjamin?

Anyway, that's all I’ve now. All the time shield yourself and hold them up to date. – Randall

does, Randall.

Good notice that Foreman-Ali is held in a country that was then ruled by a ruthless dictator. Was there public abuse? Yeah, there were some, and various sports activities journalists refused to cover it (or their publishing / net / media firm didn’t broadcast them) because of what happened in Zaire on the time. Nevertheless, America was not as globally acutely aware or politically right as it’s now – in reality, the title of the event, "Rumble in the Jungle," would in all probability not fly immediately; and Don King's unofficial headline / poster line, From Slave to Grasp, is certainly not tolerated – so I assume in 1974 the story of the event went above and past the controversy. The Ali-Frazier rubber journey, well-known for "Thrilla In Manila", was held in a country led by a president (Ferdinand Marcos) who dominated like a dictator. Both Bob Arum and Don King have been doing business in the Apartheid era in South Africa while Gerrie Coetzee was a heavyweight participant. They despatched African-American heavyweights (John Tate, Mike Weaver and Greg Web page) to South Africa to struggle Coetzee from 1979 to 1984. Why did they do this (especially the King, who had joined the anti-artists and athletes apartheid group in 1982)? And why did Tate, Weaver and Page comply with struggle there? As a result of the money was too damn good to move. Similar cope with Eddie Hearn and Saudi Arabia.

As I'm positive you recognize quite a bit to spread rumors that each one isn’t well-GBP's inside, especially Canelon and RyGuyn around. "RyGuy"? LOL. I hope you created that nickname and didn’t get it from Garcia, who fights on September 14th (vs. the fierce enemy Avery Sparrow) on a serious supporting tour to Munguia-Allotley in Carson, California.

Apparently, each fighters are extraordinarily upset with Oscar and his conduct, and both are apparently considering legal motion (Kevin Iole stated this on the SI pod with Chris Mannix and in a column). Iole and everyone else have to settle down. This is part of the business. Fighters, particularly superstars and fashionable prospects, are typically upset, and typically – typically – they categorical their anger at the promoter. Everyone blames the promoter. All the time is, all the time comes. So, Canelo's loopy that DAZN drives GGG for him. So what? I understand where each side come from. So, Canelo is apprehensive that he had to move in another country on September 14th. I perceive that. That weekend is an enormous deal in Mexico. It means so much to his fans and his huge sponsors and networks. Canelo is indignant about stripping IBF. I might too. He gained the damn belt in Might! I perceive all of his frustration, but I don't assume it all needs to go to the British Pound (and I don't know that the whole lot is). They do their greatest in a decent state of affairs. The issue is, each potential opponent in Canelo is predicted to pay 5 occasions as a lot as their excessive purse career. They usually know they have leverage because they know DAZN is signing just some different "B-sides" to barter. I am positive that in conferences or convention calls, there has been some air flow, threats and a few screaming matches, but I do not assume that on all sides there can be authorized motion. I consider GBP, Staff Canelo and DAZN will put their heads collectively and transfer on. It solely means to us that Canelo will struggle only in November. It's not the top of the world. If Kovalev wins on Saturday, he may get a job. I'm good at it. Don't you?

Vergil Ortiz, I'm bought. Me too.

All I see is her healing. Scary concept of ​​his future opposition.

I like anything about him. His gap selection, means to pay attention, body to puncture, he's massive in weight, and so on. And so forth. However principally he is simply fan pleasant. That's what it's all about.

The battle simply introduced in Gvozdyk vs Beterbiev. Who do you might have in that competition? I like Gvozdyk. So do I. I've by no means been so tall in Beterbiev, despite the fact that I've been a fan. I take pleasure in watching the Russian revolutionary wrestle. Though Beterbiev had a extra skilled newbie background, I nonetheless choose Ukrainian claws as an all-around technician.

Each are huge holes, but I feel like he has a slightly better jaw and it's not onerous to seek out Beterbiev with punches. That's true, however I don't assume Beterbiev is a "chinny," yeah, he's fallen, but he's getting up and operating the enterprise. I feel Gvozdyk's greatest guess is to put him gently early, look to realize respect in the middle rounds, and then attempt to get him to his stake. Perhaps he can get a late shutdown, however I will help him in a great, aggressive battle.

Gvozdyk, KO, Spherical 6. I might have been very stunned if he had taken Beterbiev out quickly.

An unusual query

Big fan (even you all the time choose my idol towards my Hagler lol collection) I have an uncommon query. We have now the most important boxing magazine in The Box, bar none. Why doesn't Ring Journal make The Cage “The Bible of MMA”? I each love sports and want to see ODLH think about it.

MM: Hagler vs Joe Calzaghe Middleweight

MM Hagler vs SRR

MM Hagler vs Jake LaMotta

Cheers Doug and sustain the good work. and killing it on Twitter! – Clint from British Columbia

Because of Clint. I’m going with Hagler in a late stop vs. Calzaghe, a depleted Calzaghe, in an in depth however unanimous determination in an excellent battle. I see Marvelous One and Raging Bull preventing for its legal lottery [anothergoodscrap

If Oscar needed to publish an OCT magazine, I wouldn't be towards that idea, however I don't assume I'd be the fitting guy to steer this challenge. I perceive that there’s a lot of crossover petition (at the very least rather more than there were 10-15 years ago), which is why we dedicate 4 pages to the OCT on The Ring for Gareth A Davies' Enter The Octagon ”column.

Nevertheless, every fan who likes boxing and MMA has five hardcore boxing fans who’ve zero tolerance for the" final fight. "

On Twitter and IG at @dougiefischer and comply with him on Periscope every Sunday for an SMC track.

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